so where again did this big bang come from?
it was just there?
Some ball of mass blew up creating something that is going on forever?
Your telling me that something non-eternal is blew up and created things, and will still create forever?
You really believe that?
Where's the scientific evidence?
Did you see it yourself?
For that Matter, did ANYONE see it?
Its not a scientific fact if it couldn't be tested? right?
so where again did this god come from?
it was just there?
Some magical spirit just created everything and foreverr?
Your telling me that something non-universal created things, and will still create forever?
You really believe that?
Where's the scientific evidence?
Did you see it yourself?
For that Matter, did ANYONE see it?
Its not a scientific fact if it couldn't be tested? right?
See what I did there??
Corrections: Infinitely small point of energy, but its all relative, I suppose. Not creating anymore. Energy is no longer created. Or Destroyed. The scientific evidence is the cosmic microwave background, and the red shift effect, and some math computations.
Not seeing the big bang is an Argument from Personal Incredulity. Just because you can't explain it doesn't mean it didn't happen. Other people much smarter than you have explained it.
if you believe in this, than you most likely believe in evolution.
and if so, i have an honest question.
If we evolved from apes, then why is there such a great gap and difference between humans and monkeys? why aren't there any partials?
its not like evolution will work if it just skips from monkeys to humans?
same with everyone else, why are there no transition animals, its all separated, for the most part. right?
I don't know if the Christians believe in DNA, but the human and chimpanzee genomes are 99% similar. The reason there isn't a partial is because we didn't come from the Great Ape. We are from a common ancestor. The Homo erectus, evolved to Homo sapien. Do you think And Eve were more "ape-like" creatures? Do you not believe fossil evidence? There is so much evidence for evolution. Creationists have compartmentalized their minds around there religion.
No, that is where faith plays into this.
I don't believe that i am a good person, that left to myself i would not choose to be good.
instead, i know that apart from God, I cant do anything. Apart from Him, I might as well die.
That is just scary. God apparently isn't with him while he works with logic, or in science class.
See thats where we parallel.
People who believe in the big bang can't prove how it got there to begin with.
Nor can Christianity prove where God came from.
The Bible does say that God has been there forever.
That doesn't scientifically prove His existence, but at least it says something.
unlike atheism which
was made up by humans.
Religion was made up by humans. It started by worshiping a snake. Then Polytheism, then monotheism finally came in the 4 century B.C.E. from Greek poet Xenophanes. 500 years later The Romans and the "Jesus Story." Around a hundred years later, Christianity was born.
The science book says evolution and the big bang happened, it says something too. The bible was written by people.
you really believe all that stuff is there for no reason?
Yes
I don't think anyone here would deny the fact that Jesus was a real person. And for those of you who say, He was just a good man. No.
He was either an actual lunatic, a liar, or actually God.
Lunatics dont have people follow them, or perform miracles, or raise themselves from the dead.
Charles Mason.
Also there are many historians trying to figure out if there was actually a Jesus. Maybe it's on Kellan Stec's Blog. I don't know though. Google it if not.
2 comments:
I just wanted to comment on the last part of this post.
C.S. Lewis's "Lunatic, Lair, or Lord" is actually a false dichotomy. There are other possibilities:
1. The scripture is wrong in its portrayal of Jesus. This suggests that the writers of the NT texts added a lot of the God-like qualities to Jesus when they wrote the books. Jesus may have just been a good man and preacher who enjoyed helping people, and some people believed he was God. This untrue belief may have found its way into scripture.
2. Jesus never existed. This is a possibility that relates to the one above. There were numerous pagan mystery religions that find many similarities with the Jesus story. Perhaps the writers of the New Testament based the story off of these, added a few twists, and voila!
The three possibilities that Lewis and the like state are assumed to be the only possible explanations. But, the only reason this should be so is if the New Testament texts are true. There is literally no evidence outside the bible that these events ever really happened. So, the most plausible that Lewis chooses (Lord) out of the three really isn't the most plausible in light of the two that he's ignored. Considering the lack of evidence that Jesus was a man, I'd say my two possibilities are more plausible than the Lord for obvious reasons.
Here are our new possibilities: Lord, Liar, Lunatic, Legend (1), or Lifting/Lore (2).
I think Legend sounds more likely.
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